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WARNING: This post is...upsetting. Humanity continues to be...shitty.


So I saw this ad, from the World Food Programme:

UN World Food Programme: We Feed people


And I wondered WTF and who on earth thought corn-soybean mush was a good idea. That shit ain't healthy, not by a long shot!

And then. I saw this.

2010: NEED TO KNOW | The silent epidemic of malnutrition | PBS


I...am incoherent with RAGE. This. is. bullshit. I am sorry but not only can we do SO MUCH BETTER (less fucking wars and weapons. More nutritious freaking FOOD. And don't TELL ME the US spends too much on foreign aid, we spend less than one percent. LESS THAN ONE PERCENT. We can do Less tax cuts for the wealthy, and drop less million dollar bombs AND MAKE THE CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FUCKING TAXES.) Also? Where the fuck are the rest of the world? Europe? The oil-rich states? Canada? What the fuck is this??? And I am not blaming the World Food Programme at all, because they have to take what they get and they are chronically underfunded. But countries of the world? This is NOT OK. NOT. OK. We can do SO MUCH BETTER. WTF is this???


RAGE!!!!!!

Date: 2011-05-03 09:47 am (UTC)
thejeopardymaze: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thejeopardymaze
who on earth thought corn-soybean mush was a good idea.

No doubt the industries that promote them.

I have a lot of problems with some of the mentality of too many members of the food activist circles, they see food politics as a meat verses vegetation issue, not a class or corporate one. I would also add my complaints-to put it mildly-about the orthodoxy over calories and fat, but that's a rant for another time.

Date: 2011-05-03 12:56 pm (UTC)
dreadful_penny: (ghandi burger)
From: [personal profile] dreadful_penny
who on earth thought corn-soybean mush was a good idea.

The U.S. government has the same problem with the food pyramid recommendations. Who really thinks the biggest part of the food pyramid consisting of grains (carbohydrates) is going to keep people healthy?

Nutrition guidelines aren't actually based on a healthy diet, they're based on what's traded on the commodities market, corn and soybeans being two of the major food trades along with grain.

If you want to see a movie that discusses this very well, watch Fat Head. Great film!

Date: 2011-05-03 09:21 pm (UTC)
thejeopardymaze: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thejeopardymaze
I saw clips of it, and I didn't think it was as humorous as advertised. And yet, he's right. I just wish more liberals payed attention to the science of nutrition and tell animal rights activists to shut the hell up. Imagine if at least a five socialist commie Marxist progressive types were speaking out about the paleo diet (or at least, the kind that Archaeovore and HuntGatherLove promote).


ETA: I don't think Leirre Kieth really counts, because she's one of those anarchist types who blames civilization for everything, along with some hate for transgender people, thus not really the kind of person I'd like to rally around.
Edited Date: 2011-05-03 09:28 pm (UTC)

Forgot to add

Date: 2011-05-03 09:30 pm (UTC)
thejeopardymaze: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thejeopardymaze
I've been half tempted to make a DW community focused on the REAL food politics, but only if someone is willing co-mad and agree on some general principles with me.

Re: Forgot to add

Date: 2011-05-04 03:51 am (UTC)
nagasvoice: lj default (Default)
From: [personal profile] nagasvoice
I daresay if you post it at the politics com, people there will probably like what you have to say on the topic.
http://politics.dreamwidth.org/
I don't know if there's a FONSFAQ on nutrition questions, but it sure wouldn't hurt to have one! I ran across a nice word for this nonsense. One of my other friends commented about a bit of really badly done science (ie. not science at all) by calling it "woo." There is an awful lot of woo out there around this whole topic.

Re: Forgot to add

Date: 2011-05-04 06:39 am (UTC)
thejeopardymaze: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thejeopardymaze
I've noticed those who claim to be against woo seem to not care for the science of nutrition either, they just repeat the same drivel without looking at the data. I've seen Gary Taubes's work dismissed by far too many people who have clearly not even bothered to read his work, but are more than happy to misrepresent his thesis. It's a constant regurgitation with no end in site.

And this is part of why I'm sick of the war on obesity, there is no real science being used to curve it, it's about victim blaming pure and simple.

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